tv A Conversation with Librarian of Congress Carla Hayden CSPAN October 14, 2017 1:20am-2:23am EDT
you are more than welcome to take photographs so visit the conversation with the librarian of congress sponsored by the humanities council and friends of the library. now in his fifth term with the house of representatives the congressman chairss the committee to serve on the house committee of energy and commerce and most pertinent the chair of the joint committee of the library of congress. [applause] >> they give so much. was the great day from mississippi perot with all
love the work that has been done. for those that participated said it is my honor dr. hayden the 14th library of congress were in an on-the-job every had an incredible day yesterday and to have an amazing day. and with that rock star status and with 100 librarians across the state it was like elvis in the room. [laughter]
and then to open that up in the podium in the back in the middle of the room please feel free to gol there and will demand that as well. so please give a warm welcome to dr. carla hayden. [applause] >> i want to tell you how much we appreciate you taking the time that you're incredibly busy schedule to joyous then we had a very busy day yesterday her crow how was that experience?. >> and the librarians from all over the state it is
like the oxymoron. the library and a rock star. [laughter] to be so inspiring and reaffirming that it is a community it doesn't matter where you are. i even forgot where i was because i was around my library peeps. [laughter] and mississippi is such a strong tradition in. >> at the supreme court building a that was amazing experience to learn the status of mississippi was already planning a resolution for the purchase
of books to preserve that history that was coming. >> so like the library of congress to have a recognition with that legislative body to get books and information. >> is amazing the of library of congress was created in the 18 hundreds and we only had 14. >> we stale long time. [laughter] and i can state -- i can see why. is such a wonderful resource the world's largest library and go into a resource for
people in this country so talking about the library of congress. >> how many items?. >> 164 million, 836 miles of shelving now from jackson mississippi all the way to davenport iowa. there is a lot of shelving. and to put the thing is back her call within a very robust staff member many think of follow those collections of baseball cards and comic books the first superman rarely? just
>> but the volume of done is go to school. >> and with those libraries landings to the central library and the chicago publicch library. not having work experience and a gentleman said they are hiring anybody for the library job. [laughter][l anybody with the undergraduate degree. >> i.m. here and die like that and to make out all
caper crow the then in to a small storefront on the south side of chicago. and then to have a story time and this is about empowering everyone and was in graduate school and i foundbr out this was a profession?. >> cry of an accidental library of. [laughter] truly the definition. and then open in the world
and those were classically trained musicians. but that would not be bypassed. [laughter] but we also knew the ways that they related to the notes and the musical notes to hear sound to look at the words that people talking in my head. >> she is watching and listening. [laughter] >> shehe may be sending you a text message.ck >>. >> that would bee dangerous. >> she is a lovely lady. >> this is what we tried to
do why this festival is so important you want to do. >> tell us a little bit working at the chicago public library with your first real job after graduating from college so it isha the incredible journey begins you knew early on that you wanted to stay in this profession?. >> i knew from the first storefront that day introduce so they are fresh end they smelled good.
so to have a passion for reading of joy and solace all my life. >> your leadership skills have then recognized from the very beginning but from baltimorehe maryland that is why you were able to come into this position and also the president of the american library association atd to long we recognized what that meant with that history and in getting to the education. >> he was say yankee from
massachusetts. [laughter] and then to make his fortune. and did 1856 made his fortune and was a contemporary of other well-known people live in baltimore of the time to fake that public institution to support mr. hopkins thermistor peabody and never had children tuesday he wanted to give the library to the city of wanted to be free ofnd politics and religion and set up the free public library and
mr. carnegie who largely is credited to start the system in the united states wasn't having said jay successful tie-in and he heard about him and he came down to baltimore and then he said it is that tradition and to follow. >> you of broken a lot of barriers it has taken a while for one reason there'll be 13 before you. >> and those names.
>> i think she is female. >> to be the first woman librarian and first african-american librarian look around the room there is a lot of young people watching tv what do you do to encourage someone who thinks those obstacles how do you share your story?. >> they are not imagining obstacles they are. bet with my story to be a female but librarianship is one of the original for feminized profession education nurse and librarians. >> and to come out of a library that is a fate worse than death.
[laughter] >> and with the 79 raised professions. >> and jean day that leader is heartening for some of them as young women better in the profession but also a to be a person of color. it is so significant but we were at that commemoratives marker yesterday. for thosele that wanted to read and to integrate the public library.
>> and itth was the trail marker. indians were all punitive. [applause] >> but they were all students they went to louis check out books not on the campus library. and they were addressed sharp young professionals. >> that was fun to do think about because they did the research going through the card catalog. and the brands beverages by african americans but they
is a really good library track that they are not available now they're only available right here. >> so as to have that evidence they were not available anywhere else so to date to of youngng people with those obstacles and to have so much technology and information how do you decide just to have that gripped -- grits? [laughter] but that determination and sticking close to family and friends and your partners when you face anything to realize that tomorrow things
may look better. >> with your work and leadership are you encouraged so many people there is a lot of first to be done but that is one reads it in 2016 "fortune" magazine uses the top leaders in the world. >> [applause] >> but it is so nice because every time she tries to tell me something look at that. [laughter] >> en she explains that is how it works. also she got to read a children's book yesterday? what an experience.
>> what that showed and you were with me that the eyes lighted up with that book and then it just became the book and the child and that is the alternate and we gave each child a copy of the book. lead young ladies find and said can i take it home? and the senate is for you just held to the buck. [laughter] >> and the rate goldfish. >> we had all things delivered. >> and tell us they said this his ties with theng glitter can remake a shark? [laughter] then all the kids but then with that power they wanted to write their names in the
book because with that love of reading you can buy books anbar o books -- and barrault books to read the back of a cereal box. >> he knew well breed anything. >> that is the key. ever purchased the same boat tries? and the magazines are terrible. >> we understand how to do clean that up a little bit.
>> on every surface. >> i felt better about my house. [laughter] you have not been on the job right to one year but you were sworn in september 14 of 2016. towelettes have that experience to have a obama call you they want you to be the new library and?. >> first you have to realize it is a real call. [laughter] but then you hear somebody say would you serve as the 14th librarian of congress? that you would serve. so with the library of congress with the comedian bob hope and to emphasize
the comedic genius to serve the troops pull whatever profession you are in. that was the keeper crow so what can i do is the library of congress. and to connect with us. and even day bookmark to emphasize ask a librarian. and ask a question to receive expert assistance but then there is the tip me and iff i only had a library and.
[laughter] but but the incredible experience to get bad dream job. >> that and owning a bookstore. [laughter] you could do both it is a possibility but to have that in about two months into the job what is that award from the library of congress?. >> it has so many collectionss, film and photographs of george gershwin's the great american composer. into a given that award to the outstanding contributor
"the vaccine race" singh and i was asked to present the george gershwin were to smokey robinson. that was not a hardship. [laughter] i remember to said never thought that with the to all of this. and to see the scores to all of the songs next to the original manuscript of summertime. and it brought him to tears because he said my work is here and recognized with george gershwin and then he sang.
>> that is one of uh the perks of the job and i cannot go into any details. >> i know. i had to call mr. tony bennett. [laughter] ii go. saw hard. >> the library of congress is not so bad. in the first person to give makers were award for the interpretation of the popular song. am i really the first person?. >>.
singing. [laughter] to have everybody from every party, this date that this is bipartisan karaoke. [laughter] everybody knew the words. >>. >> and this is a web brings people all together. with the diversity and that this is something for everyone and that is plugging it is illustrated. just have fun. >> as a member of congress my life has been to beyond
the joint committee of the library of congress since i got here. it is remarkable. with those gershwin awards. but with that congressional dialogue with republicans and democrats and house members. and but those current offers that are writing about history. and with those questions and answers. and they should be very hard and interest in history and working now and it is called congressional dialogue. with the idea is of books.
>> we're doing ted of those per year. we have a dinner to have day biography subway that was important it history. what do they get?. >> a book. >> the autographed book. >> remember i mentioned there are few members of congress. but that is how richet and celebrate. and then to lou talk about it. with the library of congress
is working with the archives for the firstst time and the low library of congress? and for the first time there would be the exit of the papers and what was interesting but those to reading some of the same books at the same time. what was said to look at that? the you define power. >> is that history debatable?. >> net just put the papers of rosa parks of time. i m a baseball fan with the scouting reports.
>> people don't know what day baseball junkie you rather. >> i am a fan. >> i did want to be a shortstop. [laughter] my grandfather lived in springfield and was a baseball fan with teen radios on the porch and the little black-and-white tv and he would take me out to see the st. louis cardinals and that was a big deal. >> is stored as say cardinals fan but but they are still>> recovering a year they are doing pretty well. but they would accept that.
and with the library of congress with the baseball scout period tricky so with haig aaron and ernie banks and what he said about the of players and to know the history that his relationship with jackie robinson and we have a robinson archive. that is the greatest joy for me.ow >>rk so how many things are still being discovered?. >> that is with one hand and 64 million plus items of the collection you cannot know what it said every file of
every note and cranny those that i look for a reason to go to her office. but in your offices in the of madison building all glass with the outside area of -- overlooking the capital t. is the spot. >> that is said james madison building the all the officials of oriole to james madison in the capital. and all is for a given but
door in 1975 going into the new office as a new library and and it would not open. so found the key behind a the wooden door was the bank vault. that was something and nobody knew the combination. the legend goes a certain gentleman that has those skills. [laughter] was excused for a short period of time. [laughter] to open the safe and when they opened it if there was only a small black box when
he opened the box there was a letter that said the seven continentser of abraham lincoln's pockets the night he was assassinated. that was given by his granddaughter and in that box were two pairs of spectacles, a little cloth for him to condemn with -- cleve them six or seven articles about tim and a confederate $5 bill and had a a little pocket knife and then to humanize.
but then you put in your pocket. that is what was in his pocket. bill and i was librarian of congress i went through every drawer and i am still looking. >> and to see what they'd never know. and end overtime with the susan b. anthony's papers. football fields and people retire your new about thatia before and then to pull down a box of teddy roosevelt's
diary. and with february 14 then my life is over because his wife and mother died in the same house on february 14th at the same time. then to make them available. >> so that is the of mission that you have set forth. and then to physically visit the library of congress congress, they can and. so a share what they are doing their. >> to mention in the of web
knowing you and your love for books and history, many presidents, many others donated their personal library, what has that experience been? >> there is another movie about oliver wendell holmes, at the end of the movie he talks about donating this and that 2 different institutions but he says i will give my books to the library of congress. the library of congress has the personal library of oliver wendell holmes, ralph ellison. you think about not only what people produce, the manuscript, the draft but was where they reading, what were these people getting inspiration for and from? we are putting those types of things and then thomas
jefferson's library. >> that is important when you look at how thomas jefferson really helped the library of congress. >> after the fire, retired to monticello and the largest private library in the united states and offered, sell the library to the library of congress to the nation and there should be no subject a member of congress should not have to refer and had 6000 books. back in those days, there were books on every subject in different languages. you can see some of the original books, filled them in over time. >> you have some amazing things that are being done. past forward from 6000 books from thomas jefferson from the
1800s to today, on average, how many items does the library receive each day? >> every working day, just because of getting deliveries, 20,000 items. 20,000 items are coming in. the production process, looking and seeing, it is great. >> if you have a question, we are going to get those in a moment but when you look at those, what that has been done, you are getting duplicates of each book, tell us about the surplus book program. >> we were able to donate and you were instrumental in that. each congressperson is able to do that, work with the library of congress to get donations of
surplus books. when we say surplus we are not talking about brand-new books coming in who can be part of recovery efforts, you have the damaged -- and mississippi. just for school libraries, community centers, anything. >> an amazing thing, let's talk a minute, we have questions here. >> thank you for your time. a question specifically about the databases and different types of interfaces available through the library's website. one thing, if there is any direction about making them more friendly on the autism spectrum,
the younger students a better opportunity to do their primary research at younger ages and if there is anything or anyone in the department exploring those options. >> thank you for bringing fat to light because that is a major focus when you mention chairman harper. not only letting everybody know what we have but making it easier to access what we have. the library is embarking on a strategic strategy and examining ways that we can use technology more effectively. we have refreshed the website recently and you can see more and more of that. i want to take this opportunity when i mention the jefferson building, what we did yesterday
with the mississippi school for the deaf and national library of services, and the most beautiful building in washington, visual challenges and you can go into the building and still experience architecture. we are very concerned but excited about what we could do to make accessibility part of everything we do. captioning our film series and things. >> to reach out with those disabilities of all kinds to make that accessible. next question. >> i am a historian, thank you for the wonderful resources i have used both in person and
online. i was curious, what do you think the library looks like in 50 years? with 20,000 items, maybe there is an off-site i am not aware of. >> all we know is doctor carla hayden will still be in the library. [applause] >> i will look like that lady out of it's a wonderful life. that is the exciting part, that is where yesterday with my library of colleagues, all libraries are engaged in that envisioning of the library of the future. the library of congress, conservation and preservation as
well. we have unique materials and college and special libraries. i give a shout out to the grumman collection. [applause] >> people listening and watching may not know the university of southern mississippi has one of the most important archives of children's literature in the world. curious george. [applause] >> the archive of curious george, jack keats, these are unique materials that are always going to need to be conserved and stored. the library of congress has a number of storage modules with the digital shelving and additional control. not just putting things away somewhere but temperature
control, security and all these things. with digital, we are concerned about how do we preserve digital copies of things and update the technology as the technology changes? the library of congress has embarked on a digital strategy of storage, planning, but also looking at the fact that in the future, you will see some changes in the next three or four years where you go into the buildings and they are more interactive, more displays of material, the library's of the future starting it now are going to build quiet spaces because they are active and go into a library now, no shushing, i was in the jacksonville library, a coke machine, you can eat in
libraries, libraries are gathering places, you can make things, you will see a lot of libraries that have different spaces to do different things so people can look at collections, they can create more. it will be quite exciting. >> the first one on one meeting i mentioned curious george, what might you wish to do? >> we have to go to the library of congress, it is a wonderful display and people don't realize. >> most don't know the story of the authors. >> they had to escape and,
everyone is curious and they had to use bicycles to escape and they came to america and it is a wonderful story. >> it is an honor to be here. i wanted to ask something, not just ask a question. we are from louisville, mississippi. we found reading comprehension and all that, we formed a group called black girls read and we came down to meet you. we have 30 girls k-12, maybe 20 today. we are right back here. [applause]
>> we inspire girls to read, midnight without a moon by linda jackson but we went to inspires them, let them know they can do or be anything they want to be. they will be future carla haydens. i want to ask you if they would please stand. if you would inspire them with a few words. [applause] >> i love it because, because you young ladies have different outfits. i am trying to get a t-shirt. that is the other thing, reading
can be cool and you can do your thing and read what you want and this is just -- take advantage of it. one of the joys of working with young people, i want to get all of your names because in 20 years or so when you become, you are doing your thing, don't forget us. we will be able to say a couple of the members or all the members of this group are now doing this, this and this and the definition we were there when they got started. we are all here to support you. invite us to the emmys. we knew her. that is another thing to deal with.
numbers following. the digital copy of the -- this is a nonprofit. it can be done. >> the library of congress has six overseas offices that have people with various countries who catalog and got materials, the global sphere by cataloguing and assigning numbers, with those catalogers. other languages than english,
with 170 languages, experts in washington but also in other areas of the world, we -- make sure you are connected. >> time for one last question. >> in jackson, mississippi, the first of its kind in jackson, mississippi around the globe -- >> i find out, thank you very much for your question. >> the library of congress. >> in the contact. >> such a toy listening to you i and i will be graduating spring with my degree in english. i can attest to the rich history but my question, one of the things i miss about 44 is his love for reading. i heard he was reading team of rivals so i read it. so inspiring.
i wanted to know, can you be a good leader without being a good reader and what books have had the most profound impact on the trajectory of your life? >> i will start with the first -- the second one. because the books that i talk about all the time, they told me about it, bright april. it was written in 1946. i was not alive then. i want to make that clear. that is when it was written. i got it later. it was a book about a young african-american girl with two pigtails and she was a brownie and she was about 8 years old and some librarian in queens, new york, i don't know who put it, i loved that book because i saw myself for the first time in
a book. books can be windows. we talk about they take you everywhere and everything but they also need to be mirrors, right? if we are saying to kids and young people books are so important and then they don't see themselves reflected in it, what is that saying? a double message. all readers can be leaders and you have two roles of them right here. [applause] >> everyone, that concludes our conversation with doctor carla hayden, the 14th librarian of congress which can we express our appreciation? >> thank you. [applause] .. ..